tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post7379980426082874994..comments2024-01-15T03:32:03.328-07:00Comments on Salsa Night: New poll (finally)Nickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16680099072195435304noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-19333636536557099532008-11-03T11:11:00.000-07:002008-11-03T11:11:00.000-07:00I wrote half of one, but to be honest I just don't...I wrote half of one, but to be honest I just don't have it in me- I mean I feel semi-strongly about the election, but if the other guy wins, I don't think it will be the end of the world.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16680099072195435304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-13223314737073162522008-11-03T10:32:00.000-07:002008-11-03T10:32:00.000-07:00I voted that fraud was worse, but I think suppress...I voted that fraud was worse, but I think suppression is just as bad if it is intentional. I really see the point of those who are think that suppression is worse than what ACORN has done. <BR/>What does voter suppression mean? I'm thinking of intimidation and lying about election rules. ("You can't vote because your house is in foreclosure." (Not true in Michigan)) This is just as bad as any fraud if it is intentional; and now that I think about it, I can't think of an example of unintentional suppression.<BR/>What has ACORN done? Turn in fraudulent registrations, such as Mickey Mouse in Florida and the Dallas Cowboys' starting lineup in Nevada. As far as we know, this will not result in fraudulent votes (the examples above were obviously already flagged as fraudulent). What this has caused is increased work for election officials, and it may be that there are real potential fraudulent voters that have not been caught by the officials. <BR/>Anyway, my point is voter suppression has a real effect. Voter registration fraud doesn't necessarily lead to voter fraud. That's why some are saying suppression is a bigger deal. In statistics speak: the likelihood weighted (based on current information) expected severity of the resulting election unfairness is higher for voter suppression.<BR/><BR/>And where's the ranting political (and presidential, I assume) endorsement? Time is running out.JonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692440807087956879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-77105113856440557182008-11-03T10:30:00.000-07:002008-11-03T10:30:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.JonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692440807087956879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-51616774124315385002008-10-31T16:59:00.000-06:002008-10-31T16:59:00.000-06:00Good point Warren, I never thought of it that way....Good point Warren, I never thought of it that way.apyknowzitallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305646283708140669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-29142309180807339692008-10-31T16:52:00.000-06:002008-10-31T16:52:00.000-06:00Let's be honest, a lot voters are stupid. That's w...Let's be honest, a lot voters are stupid. That's why I picked voter fraud as worse.Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17059735648946659240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-85757829900252547252008-10-31T09:53:00.000-06:002008-10-31T09:53:00.000-06:00oops. I meant to not say anything about the poll u...oops. I meant to not say anything about the poll until after it was over. Would it help if I said that skinhead neonazis in northern Idaho think that voter fraud is heinously wrong, and are organizing against it?Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16680099072195435304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-20176537157116185372008-10-31T07:20:00.000-06:002008-10-31T07:20:00.000-06:00Hey! Stop swaying the poll!Hey! Stop swaying the poll!Cabezahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11999687733029976277noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-21164828849064811522008-10-31T06:54:00.000-06:002008-10-31T06:54:00.000-06:00I just ask because I read all these articles where...I just ask because I read all these articles where they claim that one is far worse than the other- usually it is a democrat saying that suppression is the ultimate prime evil act, while fraud is just a slap on the hand offense.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16680099072195435304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-86984338620947983052008-10-31T06:45:00.000-06:002008-10-31T06:45:00.000-06:00You also left out Barr/Root. I wish that one were ...You also left out Barr/Root. I wish that one were the other way around; Root/Barr is much more fun.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, why do we have to choose between voter supression and voter fraud? Can't they both be equally bad? It's like asking which one is worse: lying to your investors or lying to the IRS?JonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13692440807087956879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-44136514916738303822008-10-29T21:50:00.000-06:002008-10-29T21:50:00.000-06:00You left out Nader. But I'm not telling yet.You left out Nader. But I'm not telling yet.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16680099072195435304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23935428.post-54774405457771544392008-10-29T10:41:00.000-06:002008-10-29T10:41:00.000-06:00I'm curious. If you can't stand Obama or McCain, ...I'm curious. If you can't stand Obama or McCain, which way are you swinging? McKinney/Clemente? Baldwin/Castle?apyknowzitallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08305646283708140669noreply@blogger.com