Monday, October 27, 2008

New poll (finally)

And I plan on making a long winded, polemical, ranting political endorsement later in the week (believe it or not, I didn't make my final decision until last week (Yes I know I said I can't stand Obama, but I also said I can't stand McCain, so there you go)), so if you are sick of presidential politics, do not tune in until a week from tuesday (I reserve the right to rant in the days immediately following the election, no matter who wins).




11 comments:

apyknowzitall said...

I'm curious. If you can't stand Obama or McCain, which way are you swinging? McKinney/Clemente? Baldwin/Castle?

Nick said...

You left out Nader. But I'm not telling yet.

JonF said...

You also left out Barr/Root. I wish that one were the other way around; Root/Barr is much more fun.

Anyway, why do we have to choose between voter supression and voter fraud? Can't they both be equally bad? It's like asking which one is worse: lying to your investors or lying to the IRS?

Nick said...

I just ask because I read all these articles where they claim that one is far worse than the other- usually it is a democrat saying that suppression is the ultimate prime evil act, while fraud is just a slap on the hand offense.

Cabeza said...

Hey! Stop swaying the poll!

Nick said...

oops. I meant to not say anything about the poll until after it was over. Would it help if I said that skinhead neonazis in northern Idaho think that voter fraud is heinously wrong, and are organizing against it?

Warren said...

Let's be honest, a lot voters are stupid. That's why I picked voter fraud as worse.

apyknowzitall said...

Good point Warren, I never thought of it that way.

JonF said...
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JonF said...

I voted that fraud was worse, but I think suppression is just as bad if it is intentional. I really see the point of those who are think that suppression is worse than what ACORN has done.
What does voter suppression mean? I'm thinking of intimidation and lying about election rules. ("You can't vote because your house is in foreclosure." (Not true in Michigan)) This is just as bad as any fraud if it is intentional; and now that I think about it, I can't think of an example of unintentional suppression.
What has ACORN done? Turn in fraudulent registrations, such as Mickey Mouse in Florida and the Dallas Cowboys' starting lineup in Nevada. As far as we know, this will not result in fraudulent votes (the examples above were obviously already flagged as fraudulent). What this has caused is increased work for election officials, and it may be that there are real potential fraudulent voters that have not been caught by the officials.
Anyway, my point is voter suppression has a real effect. Voter registration fraud doesn't necessarily lead to voter fraud. That's why some are saying suppression is a bigger deal. In statistics speak: the likelihood weighted (based on current information) expected severity of the resulting election unfairness is higher for voter suppression.

And where's the ranting political (and presidential, I assume) endorsement? Time is running out.

Nick said...

I wrote half of one, but to be honest I just don't have it in me- I mean I feel semi-strongly about the election, but if the other guy wins, I don't think it will be the end of the world.